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🗓️ 3 May 2022
⏱️ 50 minutes
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With the Russian invasion of Ukraine stretching into its third month, the Ukrainian people continue to valiantly fight for their right to sovereignty and democracy. Our guests today join Alec to discuss the situation on the ground in Ukraine and how they are working to ensure the stories of the Ukrainian people reach the world. Bryce Wilson is an Australian freelance photojournalist whose work has focused on the war and humanitarian crisis in Ukraine’s east since 2015. He shares his experiences embedding with the Ukrainian special forces unit and reporting from the first days of the invasion. Ida Sawyer is the director of Human Rights Watch's Crisis and Conflict division, which investigates and reports on human rights abuses happening around the world. Sawyer shares the organization’s findings of Russian military forces committing laws-of-war violations against civilians in Ukraine.
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0:00.0 | This is Alec Baldwin, and you're listening to Here's the Thing from I Heart Radio. |
0:08.8 | On February 24, 2022, while the world watched on in horror and disbelief, Russian forces |
0:17.3 | invaded the independent nation of Ukraine. |
0:21.5 | While Ukrainian forces continue to fight for democracy, their right to sovereignty and the |
0:27.3 | soul of their country, my guests today are working to ensure their stories are told. |
0:34.7 | Aida Soyer is the director of the Crisis and Conflict Division at Human Rights Watch. |
0:41.1 | The organization is currently on the ground documenting alleged war crimes in Ukraine. |
0:47.5 | Soyer shared with us some of their devastating findings and what the organization plans to |
0:53.0 | do with these reports. |
0:55.6 | At first I'm talking with Australian photojournalist Bryce Wilson. |
1:00.9 | Wilson has documented the humanitarian crisis in Ukraine since 2015. |
1:06.5 | He was the first Australian journalist to embed with the Ukrainian Special Forces covering |
1:12.1 | the conflict in the Donbass region. |
1:14.9 | His work has been featured on ABC Australia, The Daily Mail, and Sky News. |
1:20.8 | And despite his resistance to social media, Wilson's Instagram and Twitter feed provided |
1:27.2 | a gripping account of the front lines of the Russian invasion. |
1:31.1 | It's crazy. |
1:32.1 | I can't believe that Russia has declared war in Ukraine as soon as the declaration. |
1:38.7 | Oh, that's a missile. |
1:40.4 | That's a missile. |
1:41.4 | That's a fucking missile. |
1:43.2 | That was one of those I called for the same thing. |
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