All right, everyone, here we go with another special edition of Catching Foxes.

I'm here with one of my dearest friends in the world, Paul Joy.

Paul, you want to say hello to the masses?

Good, good evening, everybody.

It's great to be on with one of my best friends in the whole world who carry.

I think we've known each other.

If I'm not mistaken, what, 15 years at this point?

15, 15.

Yeah, summer 2010.

You were the first person I've ever hired, like directly did not know.

Here's his, here's his resume.

Let's sit through an interview you're the first one

and we became buddies i mean we were friends while we were working together and stuff oh yeah and then just

yeah so it's been 15 years man so we worked together in eureka california fun fact this is like

in a weird way though it's not a part of St.

Bernard's at all.

This will be a very St. Bernard-esque episode because the editor was, went to elementary

school there.

Oh, right on.

Isn't that crazy?

So he left like right before I started in fall of 2008.

So this is like right before I started in fall of 2008.

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