I mean the clearest way to see the asymmetry is just to imagine reversing it.

I mean just imagine the Jews of Israel attempting to use their own women and

children as human shields against Hamas on October 7th.

Picture the attitudes of the Hamas fighters

if they were confronted with that stratagem.

Hamas would think it's like they've hit the jackpot.

It would just be the most grotesque Monty Python skit you've ever seen.

I mean, it's just like all the Jews would die.

And the jihadists would look at one another like, can you believe what... Jews would

look at one another like can you believe what what were they thinking the whole

point was to kill as many of them as possible right but the strategy only works

to the degree that it does because of the heightened civilized

sensitivities of a Western audience.

What's amazingly cynical about this is that the jihadists know that we care more about the lives

of their children than they do and they're consciously weaponizing that against us and by

us I mean you know all of civilized humanity that is in that against us. And by us, I mean, all of civilized humanity

that is not part of a death cult that views it

as a win to have people die in whatever numbers

because they're going straight to paradise. And I'm pleased to welcome to this podcast for the first time.

Philosopher, Neuroscientist, host of one of my favorite podcasts making sense and a best-selling author

Sam Harris. Sam, thanks for being here. Thank you. This is a pleasure.

Sam as I mentioned to you when we were talking offline we are trying as we approach the one year anniversary

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