What we learned on October 7th, Dan, is that for the last 20 years we were living a fantasy.

And that fantasy was that we could somehow coexist with genocidal enclaves, literally on our border.

And we thought that this was all somehow manageable. You know the policy of

feeding the beast will appease Hamas and by allowing hundreds of millions of dollars from Qatar to flow through.

And in the north we'll be able to deter them.

And it was all a fantasy.

And what we learned is that when you live next door to enemies who say to you,

one of these days we're going to cross the border and we're going to slaughter you.

Then one of these days they're actually going to do it and

you're going to wake up into an October 7th. And so there is nowhere to go

except to the next stage of this war. And for me it's not an

escalation. It is the inevitable next step of what began on October 7th. I'm pleased to welcome to this conversation from Jerusalem my longtime friend Yossi

Kline and Levy. Yoss, thanks for being with us.

Great to be with you, always, Dan.

Yossi, as you and I discussed,

we're doing this special series leading up

to the one-year anniversary, that Grim one year anniversary of October 7th,

I couldn't imagine we'd be here one year later with not only a war in the south but war fronts opening up elsewhere and

hostages over a hundred hostages in the Dungeons of God's. I mean I just wouldn't have

imagined this as we are approaching the high holidays the haagim and the one year anniversary.

In this special series and for those listening to this, you can also watch this conversation on YouTube.

For this special series, we started with Douglas Murray, in which we talked about the world's

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