Ore Is the New Oil

Angry Planet

Matthew Gault

War, Politics, Conflict, Government, History, News

4.3 • 882 Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2024

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Oil makes the world go ‘round, for now. But rare earth minerals such as lithium are increasingly in demand and, as a result, the source of conflict. With us on the show today is Reuters journalist Ernest Scheyder. His new book The War Below: Lithium, Copper, and the Global Battle to Power Our Lives explores the new resource war that’s sucking in community activists, titans of industry, and global superpowers.

Scheyder’s work at Reuters

The War Below: Lithium, Copper, and the Global Battle to Power Our Lives

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0:00.0	Love this podcast support this show through the a cast supporter feature
0:05.1	It's up to you how much you give and there's no regular commitment. Just click the link in the show description to support now. No, it's not video.
0:15.0	There's no.
0:18.0	No, it's not video.
0:19.0	There's...
0:20.0	Yeah, don't worry about the video.
0:21.0	I've got a...
0:22.0	Face for radio. I've an ironic like
0:24.2	shit post t-shirt on. We don't want anyone to see this. So, well you mentioned a book.
0:32.2	Uh, tell us what the book is. Tell us who you Well, you mentioned a book.
0:33.0	Tell us what the book is.
0:34.3	Tell us who you are.
0:36.2	Awesome.
0:37.2	Well, great to be with you, Jason, and Matthew.
0:39.8	My name's Ernest Schider.
0:41.7	My day job is at Reuters Reuters where I read about the critical
0:43.8	mineral sector and I've written a book called The War Below, Lithium, Copper,
0:48.4	and the Global Battle to Power Our Lives. Now it sounds like it might be a book
0:52.2	about mining specifically but it's not really. It's a book about choice broadly. It's a book about the choices our world needs to make if we want a clean energy transition, if we want cell phones and other battery power devices that are increasingly
1:06.5	underpinning every single part of our everyday lives.
1:09.6	All of those electronics are built with lithium, nickel, copper, cobalt, and rare earths and many other minerals and metals.
1:16.5	And they all come from somewhere.
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