Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO Late Month series Real Time with Bill Mall.

Okay we're back here on overtime with the anchor of CNN's The Source with Caitlin Collins,

these are Democratic Strategies and Coates. with Caitlin Collins. Caitlin Collins.

He's a Democratic strategist in post to the podcast Politics War Room,

James Carvel, and he's a Republican Congressman from Texas

to host the podcast hold these truths with Dan Prince, or Dan Friendship.

Okay.

All right, here is what people want to know.

Dan, what explains why certain Republicans like Turco Carlson have become so pro- Putin?

Good question. What does explain that?

Your buddy.

Man, I don't know.

Tucker, Tucker hates my guts. I mean, I think we all know that well that says a lot for you yeah

you guys I don't know how to explain the Tucker I've never met Tucker never even spoken with him he just

trashes me because I think it's a bad idea for Russia wins a land war in Europe and I

would remind everybody I know this is getting serious but I would remind everybody if you don't if you

don't stop Russia there and we're spending maybe 5 to 10% of our gee of our sorry I said

GDP a defense spending just on supporting Ukraine so they can fight their own

battles if you didn't do that if you never gave him any stingers never gave him in just on supporting Ukraine so they can fight their own battles.

If you didn't do that, if you never gave them any stingers, never gave them any javelins,

you'd have a Russian army that is fully intact and also very aware that we don't defend our

friends and they'd be on the border of former NATO countries.

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