Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO Late Month series Real Time with Bill

Ma. Oh wow we get to talk extra. He is a Columbia University professor and

opinion writer at the New York Times one of my favorites.

John Mcwater is over here.

And he hosts Snapchat's Good Luck America and is a founding writer at Puck News.

Peter Hamby back with this.

All right, here's what the people want to know. The people.

Peter, why, why this is just for you, I think we can all talk about it what explains

Donald Trump's appeal to young men I saw today that the gender gap I can think

is the widest I mean it's very predictable I mean the women are much more for

Kamala and the men are much more for Trump generally but it's it's not

predictable if you look at past elections where voters under 30 generally men and women went for

Democrats this is remarkable I think to explain it wait wait what you're

talking about under 30 yeah the under 30 what's gap. It's very different than past elections.

So in 20 bigger?

Much bigger.

So in 20, young men and young women voted for Joe Biden at roughly the same rate.

Over the last four years and now with Kamala Harris.

Young women are voting for Kamala Harris

at that same level, if not more.

Kamala Harris has barely moved the needle with young men they have gone

uh... more toward trump there's a lot of reasons for that i think trump has

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