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DNA: ID

Pam Cahanes and Kathy Hicks Part 2 of 3

DNA: ID

AbJack Entertainment

Society & Culture, True Crime

4.8871 Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2024

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Episode 92 Pam Cahanes and Kathy Hicks Part 2 of 3

This is part 2 of 3 in the case of Pam Cahanes and Kathy Hicks. If you have not listened to part 1 yet, stop now and go back and listen to that part first. 

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0:00.0

This is the earliest case I've found that even mentions forensic genealogy.

0:04.3

One of the affidavits in the case states, quote,

0:06.6

On March 27, 2015, investigator Robert Janes, a retired Seminole County Sheriff's Office Investigator,

0:14.3

utilized the private forensic genealogist service Identifinders International,

0:19.2

and submitted the DNA profile recovered from the hip portion of Pamela's underwear to a forensic genealogist for evaluation.

0:26.6

On that date, the forensic genealogist Dr. Colleen Fitzpatrick and her partners at Identifinders advised the DNA belong to an individual with ancestry from sub-Saharan Africa, where the frequency

0:39.0

of this heritage reaches over 80%. Generally, the presence of this ancestry in the Americas

0:45.0

is primarily due to the transatlantic slave trade." End quote.

0:50.6

Listeners have heard me interviewed Dr. Fitzpatrick before on The Boy in the Box episode.

0:55.0

She's considered the inventor of modern forensic genealogy.

0:58.0

And thanks to identifiers, now the investigators knew that the suspect was likely a black male.

1:04.0

Three decades of looking exclusively at white suspects were for nothing.

1:09.0

In 2017, Detective Jennifer Spears heard about Parabon's

1:13.7

phenotyping service and sent the Reston Virginia Company a sample of the semen from Pam's

1:18.8

underwear. This from Detective Spears' affidavit, quote, they were able to extract 34.83 nanograms of

1:26.7

DNA from the swab with the suspect semen and subsequently sent

1:31.1

that sample to a kisogen for genotyping. The overall genotyping call was 97.4, which indicates that

1:40.2

the sample was from a single source. Parabon nanolab supported the previous evaluation by Identifonders International, that the sample was from a single source. Parabon Nanolab supported the previous evaluation by

1:46.1

Identifonders International that the unknown DNA, developed from Pamela's underwear, belonged to a

1:52.5

male with African heritage with over 80% confidence. Parabon's profile has brown or dark brown

1:59.1

skin color with 95.8% confidence, brown or hazel eye color

2:03.9

with 87.5% confidence, and black hair with 99.99% confidence. End quote. This report from Parabon

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