Panic World: Who turned Gen Z fascist? (With Felix Biederman)

Chapo Trap House

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🗓️ 19 March 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Felix appeared on today’s Panic World podcast hosted by past-guest Ryan Broderick of the fantastic Garbage Day newsletter. We’ve agreed to crosspost this ep in our feed. Enjoy! Check out Panic World wherever you get pods, and subscribe to Garbage Day here: https://www.garbageday.email/ Every four years America suffers through a national election, with its own distinct collection of far-right freaks. Yet against the trend, in 2024 many of the youngest voters started finding them appealing. So who or what turned Gen Z fascist? Felix Biederman of Chapo Trap House joins us to discuss the main players in the right-wing (mano)sphere, and whether this ecosystem of new guys will keep our nation’s youth in their thrall. Our guest Felix Biederman co-hosts Chapo Trap House (https://www.chapotraphouse.com), found wherever you get your podcasts. You can purchase the Seeking A Fren for the End of the World series for $5 at: https://www.patreon.com/cw/chapotraphouse/collections Or it, along with all their premium episodes and other acclaimed miniseries like Hell of Presidents and Movie Mindset, are available to all subscribers for just $5 a month at https://www.patreon.com/cw/chapotraphouse

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0:00.0	Uh, would you like to hear my favorite right wing crank?
0:03.0	Yeah.
0:03.5	I always have had a soft spot for Scott Adams, the Dilbert guy, because I interviewed him
0:08.1	once several years ago and he tried to hypnotize me over the phone.
0:11.7	I love Scott Adams.
0:13.5	And I feel like Scott Adams was, you know, this is like a truism about lefties that people
0:19.2	love in America that being on the left is being right too early.
0:23.1	Sure.
0:23.5	I think that's true a lot of the time.
0:25.6	But Scott Adams is sort of the perfect mirror image to that and that he was insane in the wrong way just a little bit too early.
0:32.9	Yeah.
0:33.5	He was just right place just the wrong time.
0:36.5	A couple years later and he would be in the cabinet.
0:41.3	Oh, yeah.
0:42.1	But he, yeah, he went like too hard too soon.
0:45.3	And I also feel like you couldn't shake the Dilbert baggage, you know, like it's hard to take him seriously because he invented Dilbert.
0:51.3	And he would try to, like, obscure it in these weird ways where he'd say, I have a, you know,
0:57.7	$200 million business.
0:59.5	And it's like, yeah, that's technically true.
1:01.4	You do, but it's Gilbert.
1:02.9	Yeah, exactly.
1:03.9	Exactly.
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