I am George Knapp listening to that UFO podcast and having one hell of a good time.

That might be a good place to mention the forthcoming book.

You've got the big game, the supernatural blueprint.

I don't have a copy of this yet, Grant.

So this book tells us you've sent me over some of the basics, what it's going to look like,

the structure of it.

This, for me, seems like what you've talked about, that progression for you,

away from the disclosure process, a governmental disclosure,

to talk about what you truly think is the key to this consciousness.

You know, people call it the psionics and all that kind of stuff,

but it's consciousness, it's the mind.

Is that what you think is the key

to this whole subject now? Well, basically, it was going to originally be called crossovers.

And it basically comes down to, like you work on near-death experiences and you work on UFOs.

And you will know that there are many similarities. For example, 360 degree vision. People in UFO

things will describe the one guy said, when I put my hand on the panel on the wall, suddenly I vision. People in UFO things will describe the one guy.

I said, when I put my hand on the panel on the wall, suddenly I can see it in 360 degrees.

Now, if you're going to make up a story, that's not a kind of story you want to make up.

And what you start to see, if you've been in the UFO thing long enough,

especially if you look at the free survey data about how many have had out-abody experiences, you know, 80% of out-of-body

experiences, like 95% have had paranormal experiences, 37% have had near-death experiences.

And this, you realize there's these crossovers or even Alexander seeing aliens when he was,

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