Just a heads up before listening, there's explicit language throughout this series that might not be suitable for all years.

Also, if you're interested, we have photos, links, and more at nhpr.org slash tibs.

I'm not on Instagram, so I didn't know anything about the TIBS situation when it first blew up.

I hadn't seen any of Rose's posts.

I'm also not on Facebook, and so I hadn't seen any of the posts Debbie and Sabrina put up,

trying to defend themselves. But a tattoo artist acquaintance of mine saw the posts,

reached out to my wife, told her I should look into what was happening. She then texted me.

But I couldn't fully understand

the chronology of everything. It's hard to read the internet from start to finish. It's designed

to throw you into the deep end. I did find the annotated Google map that Rose had posted

of where she lives and where Myths and Maidens is and where Tibbs like to prowl.

So on Tuesday, July 2nd, a few days after the protest,

I went to Rose's house, cold, gum-shoote it, knocked on her door.

And in hindsight, I was interviewing her that first time

at an extremely raw moment in her life.

That was the day of her cat's death, under cloudy circumstances.

But she had two friends with her, and she made clear that she wanted to tell her story,

about how Tibbs had gone missing, about how she grieved his death, and then about how he was

found, how the person who found him didn't want to give him back.

And about how that very morning she saw a Facebook post from the Manchester Animal Shelter, a confusing post,

because it said a deceased cat had been found at the intersection of Kelly and Montgomery streets, close to Rose's house.

And now the post is all gone on Manchester and a shelf.

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