The thing is when you're close the movement is slow, knowing where that tipping point is.

Hi and welcome to episode 233 of art juice. This is honest, generous and humorous

conversations to feed your creative soul and get you thinking with me, Louise Fletcher.

And me Alice Sheridan.'s looking for a microphone.

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Today we have, we're going to talk about determination, persistence, giving up, we don't know what we're going to call it, but I have a story to share, which I'm a little bit obsessed with, and then we're going to just talk about that and see where it leads us. But before we do that, tell us what you've been up to because you've had a more

interesting time than I have in the last few days. So what have you been up to?

Yeah, I had a whole week away and it was lovely so I had two days going to an event.

It kind of business-based event with other people but obviously it turns into a lot more than that and then I had a day with

friend walking somewhere beautiful in between and then I had Manchester Art Fair so it's the third time I have been there. It's a lovely venue and it's always exhausting. What can I say? It's tiring. It's fantastic. It's great to see the work. It's exciting when things sell, it's draining when they don't, you wonder if it's worth it, and then you read book for the next year, which I'm not entirely sure that I'm going to stick with yet for various for various reasons but yeah I've been doing that and it was interesting I mean they're always different and I think this is the thing about art fair is there is no such thing as consistency,

but even with the same fair, it's different, it's a different time of year, like everybody's in a different state,

they're never the same.

And I always leave an art fair thinking,

oh, it would have been better if XYZ random thing had happened

or it wouldn't have been as good had this thing had happened or it wouldn't have been as good had this thing that happened not happened like oh it was only good because this one thing made it but there's always there's always, isn't it? Because that's like saying, well it was only good because the good thing happened. Well, yeah. Yeah, that the good thing happened. So, yeah. And I just noticed that that almost always happens.

You always think, okay, well, it was good, but only because of XYZ

that got it over this sort of mental good line.

Yeah, yeah. Was it busy with given the economic crisis that were in? Did you notice

a difference in attendance? Well I think there were a couple of things that changed so the first year I did it was the was the first year post COVID so they had it was 21 and they had timed slots and it was consistently busy throughout the day and I thought this is really nice because there are other

art fairs that I've been to where you get a lunchtime lull or it goes a bit quiet and

it was consistently busy. Last year they had no time slots and it was so busy at points people couldn't move.

It was not fun and I think you actually lost out because if somebody had gone all the way

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