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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Patric Gagne (on sociopathy)

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Umbrella

Tv & Film, Music, Comedy

4.668.3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2024

⏱️ 140 minutes

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Summary

Patric Gagne (Sociopath: A Memoir) is a psychologist and author. Patric joins the Armchair Expert to discuss being a diagnosed sociopath, how sociopathy exists on a spectrum, and having to lean on her mother’s moral compass as a child. Patric and Dax talk about what it’s like to have to mask your true feelings, how everyone needs a different playbook for their lives, and the relationship between sociopathy and anxiety. Patric explains why she became so interested in other people’s lives, how she eventually found love, and finding empathy and strong feelings for pets. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:13.0

Welcome, welcome welcome to arm chair expert experts on expert. I'm Dan Shepard and I'm joined by a miniature must. This is the weirdest intro we've ever done. In six and a half years, we've never sat side by side in an intro. That's true.

0:14.4

Yeah, you're across for me.

0:15.8

I mean, we've done some side by size.

0:18.4

You don't trust?

0:19.4

That's a ding, ding, ding.

0:21.0

You cannot help but sid-eye me during this.

0:23.2

Yeah, you think I'm like angry?

0:25.0

Well, side-eyes are tricky.

0:26.4

Do you think side-eyes mean mean- mean-girl?

0:29.4

Do you think it means I'm going to bite you?

0:32.1

Plodding. Yeah, I think plotting. It means I'm going to bite you. Plotting.

0:33.0

Plotting.

0:34.0

Yeah, I think plotting.

0:35.0

Okay.

0:36.0

This is among the most interesting interviews we've ever done.

0:41.0

Rare.

0:42.0

I didn't ever think in my life I would meet someone that was open about being diagnosed as

0:47.5

a sociopath and then add on to that.

0:50.2

They also have a PhD in research psychology.

0:52.6

And so our guest today, Patrick Gagni is a psychologist and a diagnosed

0:57.0

sociopath, and she has a book out that is so interesting called

1:00.9

Sociopath, Memoir.

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