So, guys, Derek, more plate smart8.com.

Today we're going to be talking about Patrick Moore.

This is one of the most hyped bodybuilders in the open division.

He has ridiculous potential.

And he's one of those guys that's sort of, I don't know, like maybe not a Cedric McMillan or I don't know, maybe he does sort of fall in line with that example where it's an individual who otherwise is seen as like you know the future or somebody who could otherwise

have Olympia winning potential if they either you know gain more size or came dialed in

you know obviously dependence on the individual is different for each individual but for

Patrick he was always seen as a guy who could

you know go all the way and be uh you know next up and so far he has uh you know made it to the

olympia he's placed well before but seemingly in the past few years he has kind of regressed

at least most recently he had his his showing at the recent pro show

where he barely cracked top 10. And it has a lot of people kind of calling into question,

you know, where this guy's at, you know, in terms of does he still have the potential?

Is there still, you know, a run in there that can even get him to where they otherwise predicted them to be

and you know sometimes these these bodybuilders they you know some of them take it on the chin

when they lose and some of them come to social media to post about why they lost and have a big

like long drawn out excuse explaining it.

You know, a similar situation.

James Holling said had a disappointing showing at the Olympia recently, at least, you know, far

less than what he predicted he was going to do and what he kind of like hyped himself up as.

And he came to social media to basically

elaborate on why it happened and why it wouldn't have happened if he was uh you know if

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