Paul Hawken: A Love Letter to the Flow of Life

Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Tami Simon

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

The realities of human-driven climate change are only just starting to hit home for many of us. Meanwhile, activists like Paul Hawken—along with the people who have endured the devastating impacts of environmental degradation in the places they call home—continue to raise the alarm for a planet in peril. In this podcast, Tami Simon speaks with the renowned environmentalist and entrepreneur about his latest work, Carbon: The Book of Life, an awe-inspiring read that Tami dubs “a love letter to the flow of life.”

Give a listen to their conversation on: why the climate is never really in crisis (and who is); the narratives of disconnection that perpetuate a sense of separation from life; why “the only way forward is regeneration”; how humanity’s “othering” in order to get ahead just puts us all behind; the concept of flow in the natural world; the extraordinary complexity of life and the trillions of creatures communicating with each other every day; tapping into the power of curiosity and wonder; overcoming the overwhelming inertia of the existing capitalist system; why our grief is a measure of our love; embodying the timeless qualities of compassion, cooperation, and respect; the connection between the loss of Indigenous languages and species loss; apocalypse—the revelation of that which is hidden; how the discovery of fire impacted human evolution; mystical experiences in nature; leadership—listening to all the voices; and more.

Note: This episode originally aired on Sounds True One, where these special episodes of Insights at the Edge are available to watch live on video and with exclusive access to Q&As with our guests. Learn more at join.soundstrue.com.

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0:00.0	Hello, friends. My name's Tammy Simon and I'm the founder of Sounds True, and I want to welcome you to the Sounds True podcast, Insights at the Edge. I also want to take a moment to introduce you to Sounds True's new membership community and digital platform. It's called Sounds True One.
0:20.6	Sounds True One features original, premium, transformational
0:24.7	docu series, community events, classes to start your day and relax in the evening, special
0:32.6	weekly live shows, including a video version of Insights at the Edge with an after-show community
0:40.8	question-and-answer session with featured guests. I hope you'll come join us, explore,
0:47.5	come have fun with us, and connect with others. You can learn more at join.soundstrue.com.
0:54.5	I also want to take a moment and introduce you to the Sounds True Foundation, our nonprofit, that creates equitable access to transformational tools and teachings.
1:07.3	You can learn more at SoundsTrueFoundation.org.
1:11.1	And in advance, thank you for your support.
1:15.8	In this episode of Insights at the Edge, my guest is Paul Hawkin,
1:21.9	who at 79 years old, in my estimation, I would call him a force of nature. He's a renowned environmentalist,
1:32.1	entrepreneur, author, and leading voice calling for the regeneration of nature and humanity.
1:40.3	He's written 10 books, including five New York Times bestsellers.
1:46.8	You may have heard of these books.
1:48.8	Blessed unrest, drawdown and regeneration.
1:54.0	And now he's written a new book.
1:57.2	It is awe-inspiring.
2:06.7	Parts are jaw-dropping. I'm so happy to have this chance to introduce you to the new book. It's called Carbon, the Book of Life. Paul, welcome. Thank you so much. It's so good to be
2:15.3	on a podcast that you listen to.
2:22.2	I've been such a deep admirer.
2:31.7	I'll be honest, much of the ideas and things that arose for this book came from listening to people.
2:35.1	I read incessantly, no question about it,
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