Oh my God, hi. It's me Dave Holmes. Welcome to Troubled Waters, the show that treats popular

culture as the most important kind of culture to celebrate, analyze, and eviscerate it. Troubled Waters

pits a pair of entertainers against each other in a pop culture battle to the ego death. To win this

battle, each guest will be called upon to use their smarts, their rhetorical skills,

the great comebacks that they've been saving from a notebook that they bought it shorthand to earn the coveted troubled waters title, Pundit Emeritus, which will automatically give their

opinion on whether the dystopian nightmare of severance helps to numb the dystopian nightmare

of, you know, everyday life in the United

States, more weight than a civilians.

Let's dive in.

You're listening to Troubled Waters. Let's meet our guests, shall we?

Our first contestant is a comedian and a director, and she hosts overshare comedy with our friend Daniel Van Kirk here in L.A. It's Mel Stevens. Hello, Mel.

Hello, thank you so much for having me.

How are you?

I'm fabulous. I'm doing great.

Good. This is an L.A. based show today. So just how's, how's it all going?

It's quite great. I mean, you know, 2025 is, yeah, 2025. We're still early in it, so I'm hopeful.

Sure. I just got a new puppy. What that? How did you get this far into the show before revealing such a thing?

All right.

Tell me everything.

So we have a dog, but then we just rescued a dog in the fires that was happening, a puppy.

And he's like 13 weeks old and he's really, he's very cute.

What's his name?

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