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People Aren’t Dumb. The World Is Hard. (Rebroadcast)

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🗓️ 20 December 2018

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

You wouldn’t think you could win a Nobel Prize for showing that humans tend to make irrational decisions. But that’s what Richard Thaler has done. The founder of behavioral economics describes his unlikely route to success; his reputation for being lazy; and his efforts to fix the world — one nudge at a time.

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0:00.0

Hey there, Steven Dubner. The holiday season is here, which gives us the opportunity, the

0:10.1

need, really, to open up the archives and play for you a few of the best episodes from

0:15.9

our checkered past. Before we get to that, if you still need to buy someone a gift, I

0:21.3

have a few suggestions. First, how about a couple tickets to an upcoming show of Frekenomics

0:27.8

Radio Live? We're in New York on March 8th and 9th in San Francisco on May 16th and Los Angeles

0:35.0

on May 18th. For tickets, go to Frekenomics.com, click the Live tab, or you need a more tangible

0:42.1

gift, click the GIFT's tab where we've got some Frekenomics Radio stuff for sale. Now, today's

0:47.8

show, one of my very favorites, and according to our top secret download data, it's one of

0:53.2

yours too, nearly 2 million listens already. It's our conversation with Richard Thaler, who helped

0:58.5

create the field we now know as behavioral economics, which brought him, among other things,

1:04.0

a Nobel Prize. So, let's begin right now.

1:07.2

So, let's begin if you would say your name and title. I'm Richard Thaler. I'm a professor at the Booth

1:26.5

School of Business at the University of Chicago. I see technically you're called the Charles

1:33.2

Ardwell's, or Walgreens Distinguished Service Professor of Behavioral Sciences, blah, blah,

1:37.6

blah, blah. Is that accurate? Walgreens? Yeah, yeah, that's accurate, but I didn't want to

1:42.1

take up the whole podcast. I understand. With my title. I was curious, however, I guess it's an

1:47.6

endowed chair or something, yeah? Is that what that is? Yeah, in fact, it's a chair that has only

1:54.4

been held by three people, all of whom have won a certain prize. Interesting. More important

2:03.1

though I want to know, as it's bestowed by the Walgreens family, does the position come with a

2:08.5

discount at Walgreens drug stores? There is no discount that I've been informed of. That said,

2:16.0

you, and I guess the other two holders of said chair, well, you were about a million plus dollars

2:22.8

richer since you were last on the show because I understand that you went out and won a Nobel prize

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