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Permits, Power, Price: The REAL Challenges For EV Charging | Fully Charged Show Podcast with Ian Johnston, CEO Osprey

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🗓️ 13 January 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

n this episode of the Fully Charged Show Podcast, Imogen Bhogal sits down with Ian Johnston, CEO of Osprey Charging, to explore the pivotal factors shaping the future of EV charging. Together, they debunk myths about evenly distributed chargers, uncover what makes a charging location truly great, and explain why landlords are increasingly on board with hosting charge points.

They also dive into the hurdles of deployment, the potential impact of the ZEV mandate and its consultation, and the burning question on everyone’s mind: Why hasn’t the cost of public rapid charging dropped? Plus, they discuss how the Renewable Transport Fuel Obligation (RTFO) could be a game-changer for lowering costs and supporting both charging networks and OEMs. Get ready for a deep dive on the challenges and opportunities driving the EV charging revolution!  @EverythingElectricShow   @fullychargedshow

00:00 Introduction 
01:10 No charging infrastructure? 
04:35 How many more chargers do we need? 
08:15 How do you choose a charging location? 
11:02 Pub landlords! 
17:52 Upgrading the grid is a paperwork problem 
24:45 ZEV Mandate 
34:50 What's the dream scenario? 
40:18 Why is public charging expensive?! 
52:56 Quite a ride
54:43 Concluding thoughts

 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to another episode of the fully charged show podcast where today we're talking about the world of charging.

0:06.8

Now here in the UK we have almost 1 million EV charges with enough capacity to deliver 165 gigawatt hours of energy a day,

0:15.0

which could allow each EV driver to drive 580 miles per day or 933 kilometres per day, which is 21 times the average

0:24.7

distance travelled by a driver each day. So there are some fun facts for you to share down the pub.

0:30.7

But it has not been a straightforward road to get there and there is certainly still so much

0:36.1

more work to do in order to continue

0:37.8

building the charging network. So very shortly, I'm going to be joined by Ian Johnson, who is the

0:42.6

CEO of Osprey charging, a fast charging network here in the UK. And honestly, I cannot tell you

0:48.6

how much I enjoyed this conversation. You're in for such a treat. But first, a very quick ad break.

0:55.6

Love the Everything Electric Show.

0:57.6

Then join us live in Sydney in March, London in April, or in Vancouver,

1:02.1

Farmbra and Melbourne in September, October and November 2025.

1:07.7

Ian, thank you so much for giving up your Friday afternoon.

1:13.0

I feel we should let the listeners know that we are recording this on Friday the 6th of December. And it's probably going to go out

1:18.4

on Monday the 13th of January. And given the nature of the industry at the moment, actually

1:23.3

quite a few things could change despite the fact that we've got Christmas standing in the way

1:27.3

of this podcast recording now and when it goes live. So let's see how we get on. But I wonder if we should just kick off with the most obvious question. And that being that often you hear the term, there's no infrastructure. And for those just listening, I've done that in air quotes.

1:45.2

So is that the reality? And how false is that statement? I think one of the great things about the

1:52.7

world we live in today is that we live in a different world in terms of the provision of public

1:57.7

charging infrastructure to the world we lived in even two years ago.

2:06.8

There has been such an amazing change in the provision of charging in all the different areas of the sector.

2:09.4

I mean, today in December we find ourselves there's over 72,000 public charges across the

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