Pete Hegseth and the Surreal World of the Civ-Mil Divide With Phil Klay
Angry Planet
Matthew Gault
4.3 • 882 Ratings
🗓️ 20 January 2025
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Between the idea and the reality falls the shadow. Marine Corps veteran J.D. Vance will soon be vice president. Pete Hegseth, a man with a Crusader Kings tattoo who doesn’t want women to serve in combat roles, is probably going to be confirmed as secretary of defense. Over New Years, two members of the U.S. military committed domestic terror attacks.
Today on Angry Planet we get into the highs and lows of the American military with Marine Corps vet and author Phil Klay.
- What are the limits of amoral pragmatism?
- “Most troops are opposed to murder.”
- A rant about Crusader Kings.
- Vance’s view.
- Trump, Hegseth and the Honor of the American Military
- Asking Pete Hegseth how many pushups he can do during a confirmation hearing
- The Cult of ‘Sicario’
- Anguish and Anger From the Navy SEALs Who Turned In Edward Gallagher
- Sen. Ted Cruz insulted a ‘woke, emasculated’ U.S. Army ad. Angry veterans fired back.
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| 0:00.0 | Love this podcast. Support this show through the ACAST supporter feature. It's up to you how much you give, and there's no regular commitment. Just click the link in the show description to support now. |
| 0:17.5 | Hello and welcome to another conversation about conflict on an angry planet. |
| 0:21.1 | I am Matthew Galt. |
| 0:22.2 | I am here with Jason Fields, and we are also sitting here with Phil Clay. |
| 0:28.5 | Sir, thank you so much for joining us. |
| 0:30.7 | Thank you. |
| 0:31.4 | It's Cly, actually. |
| 0:32.6 | We just pronounce it that way to confuse people. |
| 0:35.3 | Wolf! |
| 0:36.2 | I'm having a day. |
| 0:38.7 | It would not be the worst of my pronunciation sentence on this show. |
| 0:44.6 | I'm sure long-time listeners will have a list. |
| 0:49.3 | But thank you, thank you for correcting me kindly. |
| 0:56.0 | So can you introduce yourself? |
| 0:59.0 | Sure. |
| 1:00.0 | I'm Phil Kly. |
| 1:01.0 | I served in the Marine Corps a long time ago. |
| 1:07.0 | I served in Iraq, actually, as a public affairs officer in 2007, 2008. |
| 1:12.3 | And I have been writing about American military activities. |
| 1:19.4 | And that's pretty much since I got out. |
| 1:22.6 | And yeah, I'm a professor at Fairfield University's MFA and undergrad and write a lot about war. |
| 1:31.9 | I feel like there's been a lot of American veteran related news lately. |
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