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🗓️ 25 November 2022
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From a plague in Athens during the Peloponnesian War in 430 BCE, to another in 540 that wiped out half the population of the Roman empire, down through the Black Death in the Middle Ages and on through the 1918 flu epidemic (which killed between 50 and 100 million people) and this century's deadly SARS outbreak, plagues have been a much more relentless fact of life than many realise.
Brian Michael Jenkins is one of the leading authorities on U.S. national security and an advisor to governments, presidents and CEOs. Brain joins Dan to discuss the legacy of epidemics— which is not only one of the lives lost but also of devastated economies, social disorder, and severe political repercussions.
This episode was produced by Hannah Ward and edited by Dougal Patmore.
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0:38.6 | Hey everyone, welcome to Dance to Notes history. A couple years ago, as COVID-19 was reaching its peak, Zenith. |
0:45.1 | Why, I don't know if it was reaching its peak anyway, as it seems to be reaching its peak and their global shutdowns were occurring. |
0:49.8 | We talked a lot about pandemics at the past. We talked about the 19th century, |
0:54.0 | asiatic dysentries like cholera. We talked about the Black Death of course. |
0:59.4 | We may have mentioned adjusting in plague in the 6th century, which proved pretty devastating across the Persian and Roman empires in the Mediterranean and the Near East. |
1:10.4 | And then of course we talked about, well, we talked a lot about great influenza of 1918, 19 and previous ways of influenza. |
1:16.5 | And interestingly, as Boris Johnson was in intensive care, fighting Fry's life, we think, with COVID-19. |
1:22.3 | We talked about David Lloyd George was completely debilitated by influenza in 1918. |
1:29.0 | And in fact, I think Lord Salsbury as well, in a previous way of influenza. |
1:33.1 | So British Prime Ministers have had a tough time in these pandemics. They're on the front line. |
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1:46.4 | But on this podcast down here, linking them all up, learning what we can from the history of these pandemics. |
1:52.0 | An American writer and thinker, Brian Michael Jenkins, has written a book about how societies respond to pandemics. |
2:00.3 | He's gone back through history and he's seen if he can tease out in the lessons to help us get a bit of perspective on what we're going through at the moment. |
2:07.1 | Maybe even give us a few pointers about how things are likely to progress. |
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