Hello and welcome to best laid plans. This is your host Sarah Hart Unger and this is the podcast where we talk all things planning and planning adjacent. I am starting a series and I guess it might have been more appropriate to start such a series in 2025 itself,

but that's okay because I had some amazing guests kind of appear in my inbox as opportunities.

As you guys probably know, most podcasters get pitched a lot more guests than they actually

choose to have on. But this one and a couple others that you're going to hear from on and off

for the next couple months were ones that I handpicked because they talk about planning

and organizing in some specific genre of life. And we're going to kick off this series with Jen Smith,

who is going to talk all about budgeting.

And in my mind, there's just so much parallel here

because budgeting is just planning around money in a way.

And if you are planning things in life,

whether they are events, trips, goals you want to achieve, etc.,

generally they're going to take up some kind of combination are events, trips, goals you want to achieve, et cetera,

generally they're going to take up some kind of combination of time, energy, and money.

So the two do go hand in hand.

So I'm super excited to hear how Jen Smith brings intentionality to her financial life and how she teaches it to others because it is just one component of that

complex puzzle that makes up our plans to live intentionally and do the things we want to do.

So without further ado, I'm going to introduce Jen.

I hope you enjoy this interview.

Well, I am so excited to welcome today, Jen Smith, from the Frugal Friends podcast, because we're doing a series about organizing in different areas of life and how it relates to planning because planning and organizing have many parallels.

But I actually think Jen's work is almost even more planning adjacent because in many ways, when we think about money and what we do with it,

a lot of it has to do with planning. And that's a lot of what Jen's current work is about.

So welcome, Jen. Go ahead and introduce yourself to the Best Laid Plans audience.

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