Podcast: DeepSeek reality check; Amazon, Kuiper, Bezos, and the Post; lost in the Microsoft garage
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🗓️ 1 February 2025
⏱️ 44 minutes
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This week on the GeekWire Podcast, we dive deep into DeepSeek, the AI project that shaking up the tech world, to better understand the underlying technical advances and the long-term implications for the industry.
Joining us is Bill Howe, an associate professor at the University of Washington's Information School and the co-founding director of the UW Center for Responsible AI Systems and Experiences, among other UW roles.
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We open the show from the Microsoft campus in Redmond, after getting an inside look at the company's history for an upcoming installment in our Microsoft @ 50 series. John marvels at the size of new campus project, which is still under way, and we experience first-hand the company's vast parking garage when we try to leave.
Also on our agenda this week: Amazon's lawsuit against Washington state over a Washington Post public records request, and what it says about the conflicts inherent to Amazon founder Jeff Bezos' ownership of the newspaper.
Related story: Bezos vs. Bezos: Amazon sues WA state over Washington Post request for Kuiper records
With GeekWire's Todd Bishop and John Cook. Edited by Curt Milton.
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| 0:00.0 | This Geekwire podcast is brought to you by BECU. Stay tuned to the break as Brian Westbrook interviews |
| 0:06.8 | BECU's Stacey Black for today's money hack on how to stop living paycheck to paycheck. |
| 0:12.4 | For more money hacks, check out geekwire.com slash BECU. |
| 0:19.9 | I've got just some basic questions. |
| 0:21.6 | Just want to get your overall thoughts on DeepSeek and maybe find out a little bit about bigger picture stuff about AI, how you're thinking about it these days. |
| 0:28.9 | Just a casual conversation. |
| 0:30.4 | So Kurt's going to start recording. |
| 0:32.5 | We're on. |
| 0:33.7 | Okay. |
| 0:34.1 | And I've got to go. |
| 0:34.6 | And by the way, I am an AI agent. |
| 0:37.3 | I'm not real. Just so you guys go. And by the way, I am an AI agent. I'm not real. |
| 0:38.3 | Just so you guys know. |
| 0:40.8 | And a few months, I won't be able to tell the difference anyway. |
| 0:42.9 | I know, I know. |
| 0:49.1 | Hi, and welcome to Geekwire from geekwire.com in Seattle. |
| 0:52.3 | I'm Todd Bishop. |
| 0:53.2 | And I'm John Cook. |
| 0:55.6 | We are coming to you from Redmond, Washington on the Microsoft campus, where we're in the middle of the newly constructed |
| 1:02.1 | Microsoft campus. And in fact, there's still construction happening right over there, |
| 1:07.1 | over your shoulder, John. So we got some good ambient sound here on the pod this week. |
| 1:12.2 | Yeah, construction sound, really exciting. |
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