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Political Gabfest | Trump vs. Harvard

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.6 • 6K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the Trump administration’s ramped up attacks on Harvard and international students, the courts flirting with findings of contempt after the administration ignores and mocks court orders, and the ways the Trump tariffs and exemptions invite corruption and “swampiness.” For this week’s Slate Plus bonus episode, Emily, John, and David discuss the implications of the White House cutting the wire services seat from the press pool to explicitly punish the Associated Press.   In the latest Gabfest Reads, David talks with author Adam Higginbotham about his new book, Challenger: A True Story of Heroism and Disaster on the Edge of Space.   Email your chatters, questions, and comments to [email protected]. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.)   Research by Emily Ditto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Slate Political Gab Fest.

0:12.0

April 17, 2025, the Trump versus Harvard edition.

0:20.9

I'm David Plotz, a citycast here in Washington, D.C., from New Haven, Connecticut, where she just had a traumatic adventure with her pup, Emily Bazelon of the New York Times Magazine and Yale University Law School.

0:35.3

But all as well, right, Emily?

0:37.1

All as well. Thank you to the people and a friend of mine who found my dog this morning when

0:41.9

she got confused and lost in our large, woody part.

0:45.5

If only we all could have people to help us could get back home when we were confused and lost.

0:51.2

I'd like to think of you guys in that category.

0:53.6

So true.

0:56.0

Yes. That was John Dickerson co-anchor of the CBS Evening News and CBS Evening News Plus in New York City. John would have

1:02.8

used the platform of CBS Evening News Plus to help find Emily's dog, if necessary. He wouldn't

1:09.9

have used the platform of CBS

1:11.4

evening news, though. That would have been too much. Well, you know, I need an, I have to write an

1:16.3

essay every day, so I'm constantly looking for, for subjects, and that could have crossed the

1:22.3

ball. Oh my God. Wait, we'll get to this at some point, but just how desperate have you gotten?

1:27.5

Where's it, where's the farthest of field you've gone so far?

1:30.1

Mostly, I think it's fair to say I have not gotten that desperate, but I did do one on the inductees into the video game Hall of Fame.

1:38.3

But that sounds good.

1:39.3

While that might sound ridiculous, it turned out, it turned into like a memory motorway because the

1:46.6

video games that were all from a different part of my life and then I started to think about

1:51.0

like the curatorial. So now I ruined the fun of video games by thinking about it this way.

1:56.4

But what you actually are curating when you're collecting these video games like this.

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