Popcorn ceilings, known for being an apartment's, maybe.

Famous for being old, maybe.

Nobody thinks much about them, so let's have some fun.

Let's find out why popcorn ceilings are secretly incredibly fascinating. Hey, hey, hey, there, folks, welcome to a whole new podcast episode, a podcast all about why being alive is more

interesting than people think it is. My name is Alex Schmidt, and I'm not alone because I'm joined

by my co-host Katie Golden. Katie! Yes! What is your relationship to or opinion of popcorn

ceilings? Popcorn ceilings. Love to chew on them. No, I like them because they make

me think of my childhood as a youth. I would look at the ceiling and it was usually a popcorn ceiling

in the school. And I think in our house, maybe before we, like, my house got remodeled as a kid,

but I do remember, I think there were popcorn ceilings as a kid. And I have these distinct

memories of kind of lying in bed, especially like if I'd woken up in a crepuscular fashion at dawn and then tried to get back to sleep.

Like I'd be looking at the ceiling and just like be watching, looking at this popcorn ceiling

and drifting off.

And I have a fond, a fond memory of it.

I don't love the look of it just from a purely aesthetic kind of thing, right?

Like sometimes like when I would go to a cheap apartment and there'd be a popcorn ceiling and

be like, ugh, one of these things. Impossible to get scuff marks off of it. But in terms of,

I don't know, I do have some positive associations with it because of just nostalgia.

And this might be a topic name that not everyone knows the name of, but if you just Google this,

I could link people to it, but just Google it and you'll see the thing that you have definitely

seen in your life listener. It's a specific stippled kind of pattern on a ceiling that I think is truly SIF, partly because I realized I have never paid attention to ceilings in my whole life, basically up until me and my wife, Brenda, are in our, like, starter home.

And through researching, learn that because our home is so old, perhaps too old,

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