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Pope Francis used a homophobic slur. How should Catholics respond?

Jesuitical

America Media

Spirituality, Christianity, News, News Commentary, Religion & Spirituality

4.8949 Ratings

🗓️ 31 May 2024

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

This week on “Jesuitical,” we’re breaking from our usual format to discuss news out of the Vatican that Pope Francis used a homophobic slur while discussing church policy on admitting gay men to the priesthood. To discuss this incident and the apology that followed, Ashley is joined by “Jesuitical” producer Sebastian Gomes; Mike O’Loughlin, executive director of Outreach, a resource for L.G.B.T.Q. Catholics; and Ricardo da Silva, S.J., producer of the “Inside the Vatican” podcast, host of the “Preach” podcast and an associate editor at America. They discuss: The context of the incident, the Vatican’s response, and the implications for L.G.B.T.Q. Catholics Vatican policy about gay men in seminaries and the history of Francis’ outreach to L.G.B.T.Q. Catholics Advice for those affected by the pope’s comments Links from the show: I am a gay priest. We need more than an apology for Pope Francis’ homophobic slur. Pope Francis used an anti-gay slur. What now for L.G.B.T.Q. Catholics? Pope Francis says Italian seminaries should reject gay applicants Vatican issues apology after Pope Francis’ use of an anti-gay slur Pope Francis’ remarks about gay seminarians ‘taken out of context and used to divide,’ Italian bishop says Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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about the Catholic Church in our world today,

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often over drinks.

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I'm Ashley McKinliss and Zach is on a well-deserved vacation so I am

0:55.8

joined by our producer Sebastian Gomes.

0:58.3

Hi Ashley good to be with you.

0:59.5

Very good to be with you. And we have a bit of a different type of episode this week.

1:04.0

That's right so if you haven't heard there's big news out of the Vatican.

1:07.8

Pope Francis used an anti-gay slur in a conversation that he was having with the Italian bishops as they were

1:14.4

gathered together for meetings as they do periodically and this is kind of set off a

1:19.3

firestorm and there's lots of analysis and conversation about it so So we really wanted to dig into it on Jesuitical this week.

1:25.6

And so we have a little bit of a different format for the show.

1:29.2

We really wanted to model this kind of charitable conversation around a very difficult topic so you're not just

1:35.2

going to hear from me this week you're also going to hear from a couple of our other

1:37.5

colleagues yeah we wanted a few different perspectives on this from people at America and outreach. So joining us from

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