Welcome to the Conspire Away Bitches podcast with Kat Dunn, where everyone is a celebrity in their own head.

From reality TV to social media and pop culture updates, let's conspire about what's going on in and out of this world.

And now here's your host, Kat Dunn.

Hello, Jag.

Peep the shirt. Hey. Oh my God. Hi. How are you doing? I love the shirt. Thank you so much.

Thank you so much. Inspire White Bitch's podcast. Oh, thank you. It's an honor to be here. How are you doing?

Doing good. So I'm so pumped to have you on. I was Team Jag all season long in the trenches when you got evicted, came back, cheering you on into your victory. My most important question is, you made history as the first sick house guest to not only play the game of Big Brother, but also win the game of Big Brother. Let's talk about the weight of that importance of this achievement.

That was huge for me.

Like, coming into the game, I knew I was the first sick to ever be on the show,

and that directed how I played the game a lot and how I acted in the game,

because I wanted to represent myself and stay true

to who I am and also represent my community in a positive light. I never wanted to do anything

that could reflect poorly on my community. And so being true to who I am, playing the game where

you know, I stayed loyal and the person that I stayed loyal to was Matt

and took him to the very end. And all of those pieces were important to me. And so being the first

winner, first sick winner is huge for me. I mean, that, like, I'm on top of the world, like,

even when I think about that, because I never thought I could get that far.

Like I believed in myself, but I've never someone who gets cocky or has an ego like,

oh, I got this in the bag.

Even sitting in the final two next to Matt, I never thought I had it in the bag.

But I'm just so grateful and so blessed about how everything worked out.

You talked about your loyalty.

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