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I'm Noah Feldman. Today's show is part of our mini-series on Power in Media Broadly.

Here to discuss power in publishing and the capacity of editorial voices in shaping the direction

of the world is Chris Jackson.

Chris is the publisher and editor-in-chief of the One World imprint of Random House.

Chris and One World publish some of the best-known writers in the world today,

Tanahasi Coates, Brian Stevenson, Jay-Z, Eddie Wong, to name just a few of the most prominent. Chris has already played

a major role in shaping the American literary landscape, in particular bringing diverse voices

and the voices of black writers into a range of national conversations. Just last year, he won

the Center for Fictions Medal for Editorial Excellence, which in the

world of publishing is a very big deal.

In short, there's nobody I can think of better than Chris to talk about how the power of

publishing can be deployed to achieve very concrete and specific real world goals.

Chris, thank you so much for joining us.

I want to start with some of what is the day-to-day building blocks of your industry,

but I think a lot of people don't know about.

And this is based on my own experience, which is that until I published a book, I basically

understood nothing about who the various people were involved in publishing books. And that made

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