IDSG bonus episodes are a regular extra just for Patreon backers of myself or Daniel. Here's a preview of the new one really what I want to say about like social media is like 280 characters is bad, you know, like the whole problem is that it's 180 characters and it's algorithmically sheltered like that's really the answer, you know, and I don't want to say it's overly simplistic and say we need to go back to blogs, but

blogs and comments sections are kind of because what you I mean ideally what you want sorry I'm distracting from what we were chatting about, but you know like what you want is, you want a like an article like something to read and then respond to and then like the ability to respond beneath that and the whole like the whole logic of like the blue check right you know of like well this is an actual lie.

Like a person like a identifiable person with like known you know sort of affiliations or known like with with some kind of notoriety well you know that's a person with a blog that's a person like running like writing at length or doing something like significant in the world you know at least and then like so many like the replies are just like you know people commenting people should posting people doing memes doing whatever and this is not too

Elevate one and denigrate the other it's just saying like they're like very different ways if people use Twitter and like what I'm interested in Twitter for is like I follow a lot of journalists because I actually want to follow their journalism.

And it's easier to follow them on Twitter and follow like people talking about that than it is to like check all the different sites every day right you know and I feel like that's kind of what I want out of it is like.

Because and I don't think that like the comments sections actually make more sense as comments sections as opposed to you know it looks like all right we're all talking about a particular like thing let's sit and talk about that here and I feel like without the algorithmic like sort of like the web structure you don't get the toxicity of it you know.

Yeah, no I just you know the more I think about it the more I'm like yeah we just got to go back to blogs you know like the great the great virtue of Twitter is that it's like a town square it's like the internet town square you know and when it's working well that's good and it's and it works as a town square or like a village notice board in that sort of active way because there is conversation like sites that are actually just directories are boring people don't use it.

Because they're boring because Twitter has to include wherever it's like who cares right yeah yeah but Twitter has that ability to be not just as I say not just a notice board but actually like a discussion area you know right that that said the discussions proper shouldn't really be in that format it that you know it's as I say it's a town square and it should be like you have the nice conversation but fundamentally the point of it is

if you want this then you go over there if you want that then you go over you know that's that's the actual utility of it I think yeah no yeah and it tries to be all these other things at once and

and that's only going to get worse is the energy out of other spaces yeah yeah that's only going to get worse as musk tries to transition it into his like X thing that he's obviously trying to do so you know yeah no no I yeah no I

don't know for me it's again release some sort of tongue clicking articles from mainstream journalists about oh most Americans now get their news from Twitter that's not necessarily a bad thing you know in in in itself inherently that's not

necessarily a bad thing because what we're talking about is people encountering tweets that link to this story or that article or this essay or you know this news report etc

and what's wrong with that yeah what's it inherently wrong with that there's nothing inherently wrong with that if you're only listening to other people's secondhand accounts or if you're

retweeting articles that you haven't read because the headline seems to flatter your prejudices or if you're only paying attention to you know bright

Barton the daily caller and stuff like that yeah okay that's bad but that's not that's not the fault that's not the fault of the space you're in you know right yeah no well and I think that I mean one thing that

complicates this is the algorithm and it's like privately run and yes regardless of whether it's not to fall for the free market because it presents itself as a free

market and it's actually rigged struck you know yeah exactly but regardless of like Eli made it worse but ultimately like even like the prior algorithm and I think that

like having an algorithm and having like sort of like trust in safety system is probably is a positive like you do want to actually

like restrict like how people get access to this and you know you do want to have some kind of like regulatory mechanism I'm not an

expert on like what you get if you don't have any of those things is 4chan is that right well yeah and and I think that you know it is like old you know old

fogies like us who have been on the internet for you know 25 years to you know actually have a little bit of the

experience of going like yeah I remember I remember the four of this and you know yeah and and like understanding like how do

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