Hello and welcome to The Rundown, a podcast from Politics Home. I'm your host, Alan Tolhurst,

and with me to discuss Tory rebellions, levelling up, housing, planning, and a row over private

schools is Conservative MP and former immigration minister Kevin Foster, Labor's shadow local government

minister Sarah Owen, as well as Robert Colville, director of the Centre of Policy Studies

Think Tank and one of the authors of the Conservative Party's 2019 election manifesto.

Now this week, one of the big rows that we're seeing is around the levelling up bill

to amendments with lots of MPs signing on two very different kind of issues, but very related.

Firstly, on an amendment to scrap the mandatory housing targets and a second one on to end

the ban onshore wind.

I'm going to start with you, Rob, you said before we started that you're being blamed for both

of these.

You said,

and have come that any MP who backed these wicked proposals, got the housing targets,

are spitting in the face of a generation and removing any prospect they will ever vote Tory.

So since you've written that, more MPs have signed that. So how do you feel about your attempt to win round conservative MPs? Well, yeah,, my attempt to win hearts and minds didn't really, really work.

Yeah, so two amendments, both in slightly different directions.

One is the continuation of a long-running interfaida, led by Theresa Villiers and various others, about the planning regime.

The Tory manifesto, which you referred to promise that the government

was going to build 300,000 homes a year in England and crucially in the places where people need

to live and work. This hasn't gone down very well with lots of people in the places where

housing pressures are highest. It's chiefly Tory seats in the southeast. The Cheshire

Man on Amundian by-election they blamed for this. And so they first, they forced the new turn

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