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We are in dire straits in England and Britain, but things can be turned around. I think, you know,

one of the big issues we're facing,

I mentioned, immigration, there's a problem of the relations

between Muslims and non-Muslims in this country.

And, but that's not, part of that problem is that we are, there's the kind of liberal, progressive,

two-tier approach to justice. So, so if, where I'm hopeful is I look to, let's say, Singapore,

I look to the Emirates and the Saudis who have, you know, single-wise 20% Muslim population.

The Saudis and the Emirates, obviously, Muslim-majority countries, but they're very outspoken about how to deal with Islamism.

In Britain, Islamism is a serious problem. One in a hundred British Muslims are on a MI5 jihadi watch list.

This, you know, something like 95 people who can kill by Islamists

lost since 95, I think, no, 2005.

And we've got a lot of issues with those groups mixing.

But I think if we take law and order seriously, we get rid of two-tier system,

we actually punish perpetrators and

people start respecting the law, then we might actually have social cohesion come again.

So Winston Marshall, you just said something interesting off camera.

Hopefully you can repeat it on camera that you think of yourself or you identify as British, not English.

From an American perspective, I don't think anyone would know what that means.

English, not British.

English not British, you see?

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