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everything secure. For those who have asked, yes, John and I did watch Lori Ballot-Daybell's

Dateline interview with Keith Morrison. And yes, we had things to say. What you're about to hear

in this episode is from a Patreon exclusive video that we shared at patreon.com slash hidden true crime discussing our thoughts on the interview.

The entire video is nearly an hour and a half long and while it was made for Patreon, we have decided to share some of it here.

Take a listen. Questions I wanted to ask John, and we just wanted to do it in a more intimate place tonight. As someone who goes into

jails and prisons to interview felons or criminals.

90 minutes is not a lot of time.

In fact, when I talked to Shane, Shane is one of the producers for Dateline.

Shane Bishop.

Shane Bishop, right.

That was the first question I asked him was,

how much time do you guys have?

You know, he was talking to me about the interview process, and he said 90 minutes.

And I thought, oh, my gosh, that's going to be, that's going to be a really tough hill.

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