Hello everybody Jack here just introducing this episode which is not on the usual

IDSC topic subject matter but as I explain in the episode this was recorded

during the hiatus that Daniel and I

had towards the end towards the very end but even so and I thought I'd use the

dormant platform that I had. As you know, Daniel and I are now back to it and I'm recording this

this intro a couple of days before we record our next main public episode.

So look out for that.

In the meantime, here, as I say,

is a free public bonus episode on a,

I would say, related but not directly related, but very important topic that I feel passionately

about in which I speak to two brilliant people and I hope you enjoy it.

And welcome to this free public bonus episode of I don't speak German. It is a it's not a mainline episode because Daniel's not here because we're still on hiatus

for the regular episodes but it's a it's a platform it's not a

gargantuan platform but it is a platform our little show and it was just sat there not doing

anything so I thought hey why don't I do something with it

something hopefully may be useful and so I thought I'd invite on to the show a

couple of really interesting people friends of mine online if I'm not presumptuous to say so,

Rowan Fortune and Twilight Ohara.

So welcome to the show, Rowan and Twine.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So the occasion of your coming on is an article which you co-wrote or an essay which you co-wrote

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