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Deadline: White House

“Pure political retribution”

Deadline: White House

MSNBC

News, Donald Trump, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Politics, Nbc News, Washington Dc, Msnbc, Government

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2025

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace on Trump and Musk’s continued gutting of the State Department and USAID amid low approval ratings, Trump’s softened tone on China tariffs and Fed Chair Jerome Powell, and the White House’s repeated resistance to complying with court orders. Joined by: Michael Crowley, Andrew Natsios, David Graham, David Gura, Tim Miller, Rep. Dan Goldman, Marc Elias, Ryan Reilly, and the hosts of MSNBC’s new show “The Weeknight” Alicia Menendez, Michael Steele, and Symone Sanders Townsend.

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0:00.0

Hi there, everyone. Welcome to Wednesday. It's 4 o'clock in New York. We begin today with the laws of

0:12.3

political gravity, having their way with Team Trump and Elon Musk as they gut the federal workforce

0:18.2

and destroyed decades of work in promoting democratic values all

0:22.5

around the world. Brand new polling shows the bottom falling out of Elon Musk's approval ratings

0:27.8

among the American people as the bottom also falls out of sales at his prize car company, Tesla.

0:34.0

A review of polls by The New York Times shows that while more voters agree than disagree with the idea that government is inefficient and wasteful by a margin of 14 points and voters like the idea of Doge by a margin of six points, they do not at all approve of the job that Elon Musk and Doge are doing.

0:54.1

And they disapprove of Elon Musk being in the

0:56.9

federal government even more. According to a Quinnipiac poll, 57% of voters think Elon Musk has too much

1:03.7

power in the federal government. That includes 16% of Republicans. Elon Musk has said he will

1:09.9

spend less time in Washington in the wake of Tesla's

1:13.2

shocking 71% collapse in profits. But whatever happens with Elon, we may be living with the

1:20.2

effects of the things he's already done in the category of slashing and burning the federal

1:25.2

government for a very long time. Two of Elon Musk's biggest

1:29.5

and earliest targets, the U.S. State Department and USAID, USAID has largely been dissolved, and they're

1:38.2

slated for more changes. New York Times reports this, quote, the cuts will affect the work of embassies

1:44.0

and consulates overseas, closures the cuts will affect the work of embassies and consulates overseas.

1:45.8

Closures of diplomatic missions and layoffs abroad are expected later.

1:50.0

That's according to U.S. officials and earlier league memos.

1:53.1

The most dramatic change, the elimination of the office of the Undersecretary for Civilian Security,

2:00.1

democracy, and Human Rights, which is charged

2:03.1

with advancing American values around the world. Many now fear that the gutting of the office,

2:09.6

especially after months of criticizing our allies and embracing autocrats like Vladimir Putin,

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