Pádraig Ó Tuama: In the Name of Belonging

Everything Happens with Kate Bowler

Everything Happens Studios

Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

4.8 • 4.7K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

What does it mean to live alongside people you don’t agree with? And love them anyway? Pádraig Ó Tuama is a poet, theologian, and conflict mediator from Ireland, where belonging has always been complicated and peace is fragile at best. In this conversation, Kate and Pádraig explore what it takes to live together in the midst of disagreement—the beauty, the cost, and the messy, sacred hope of it all.

In this conversation, Kate and Pádraig discuss:

Why peace is exhausting, fragile, and still worth fighting for
The surprising role of curiosity in transforming division
How belonging can comfort us—and cost us

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1:22.1	What does it mean to live alongside people you don't agree with? This is everything happens,
1:30.6	and I'm Kate Bowler. Living with difference feels harder than ever, doesn't it? To stay in the
1:37.4	room with people we don't understand or don't want to? to choose curiosity over certainty.
1:45.0	And yet, there are people who have spent their whole lives learning how to do this work.
1:52.0	People like poet, theologian, and conflict mediator, Patrick Otuma.
1:58.0	He's from Ireland, where his experience of belonging always felt complicated.
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