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Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

R. Derek Black, Part 2 - How a White Supremacist Changed Their Mind

Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

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True Crime, Talk Radio, Comedy, Society & Culture

4.41.9K Ratings

🗓️ 10 July 2024

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Today is part two with R. Derek Black, former white supremacist turned anti-racism advocate, and author of The Klansman's Son: My Journey from White Nationalism to Antiracism. Today we discuss how and when Derek’s identity became exposed to their friend group, including drastically different reactions from fellow students, how they were invited to Shabbat dinner by some Jewish friends, and how over time the cognitive dissonance of believing in ideology that was dangerous to people they care about began to wear on them, eventually leading them to denounce white nationalism. BUY OUR MERCH!! bit.ly/trustmemerch  Got your own story about cults, extreme belief, or abuse of power? Leave a voicemail or text us at 347-86-TRUST (347-868-7878) OR shoot us an email at [email protected] INSTAGRAM @TrustMePodcast @oohlalola @meaganelizabeth11 TWITTER @TrustMeCultPod @ohlalola @baberahamhicks TIKTOK @TrustMeCultPodcast

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If you have your own story of being an occult or a high control group, or if you've had experience with manipulation or abuse of power that you'd like to share,

0:07.5

leave us a message on our hotline number at 347-86 trust.

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That's 347-868-78 or shoot us an email at trust me pod at gmail.

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Trust me.

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Trust me.

0:21.0

Dude you trust me.

0:22.0

Trust me I'm like a smart person.

0:25.0

Yeah, I've never lied to you.

0:27.0

I never have lied.

0:28.0

If you think that one person has all the answers, don't!

0:32.0

Welcome to Trust Me, the podcast about cults, extreme

0:36.2

belief, and manipulation from two really good dinner guests who've actually experienced

0:41.0

it and I am Lola Blanc. And I'm Megan Elizabeth.

0:43.8

Today is part two of our interview with R Derek Black,

0:46.8

former white supremacist turned anti-racism advocates

0:49.6

and author of new book The Clansman's son,

0:51.8

my journey from white nationalism to Anti-Racism.

0:55.0

Last week we left off with Derek going to college and living a double life, secretly hosting

0:59.0

a racist talk show in the mornings, while hanging out with Jewish people and people of color the rest of the day.

1:04.4

And today we're going to talk about how and when Derek's identity became exposed to the friend group.

1:09.1

We'll talk about how people responded completely differently to discovering they were on campus, how they were invited to

1:15.0

Shabbat dinner by some Jewish friends, and how over time the cognitive dissonance of believing

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