Rainn Wilson: Brave, Beautiful, and Good Things
Everything Happens with Kate Bowler
Everything Happens Studios
4.8 • 4.7K Ratings
🗓️ 2 April 2024
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
Sometimes we can fix our lives and sometimes can’t. So when self-help and self-care fall short, what do we need to turn instead? Rainn Wilson (Dwight Schrute of NBC’s The Office) says that what we need is a spiritual revolution. This conversation is rich and challenging and invites us all to think about the virtues we need to sustain a life and how we might cultivate these virtues not just for our own wellbeing but for that of the people around us. Spoiler alert: it has nothing to do with bubble baths or the latest cold plunge trend. Wouldn’t it be nice if it were that easy?
In this conversation, Kate and Rainn discuss:
- How self-care is often a form of toxic individualism
- The current mental health crisis and the need for spiritual tools that provide vision, mission, and purpose
- How making oneself useful can be an antidote to despair
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| 0:00.0 | This episode of Everything Happens is brought to you by booking. |
| 0:04.3 | Booking. Yeah. |
| 0:05.8 | Book whoever you want to be on booking.com, booking dot yeah. |
| 0:11.7 | This episode is sponsored in part by the Fetzer Institute. |
| 0:15.0 | Despite the time and money were pouring into policy reform to address society's biggest challenges, |
| 0:22.0 | how much progress are we making really? |
| 0:24.8 | The Fetzer Institute believes in cultivating ancient wisdom traditions to tackle today's |
| 0:29.5 | problems. |
| 0:30.9 | Fetzer is catalyzing a movement of leaders and funders who are applying a wide variety of faith-based and spiritual solutions to the world's toughest challenges. |
| 0:40.0 | Learn more about how to bring faith and spirituality back into the conversation at fetzer.org. |
| 0:47.4 | This is Everything Happens and I'm Kate Bowler. If you've been around for a bit, you know that I have some strong feelings about the |
| 0:57.9 | 12 billion dollar self-help and wellness industry that has sold us on the idea that our lives are entirely |
| 1:05.3 | figure outable. Just follow this five-step plan or drink this barely |
| 1:10.6 | tolerable green juice or protein powder like what is going on with things that are made |
| 1:15.9 | of dust that we're supposed to eat or you know read the latest cheap paperback that you |
| 1:20.7 | found in the airport spinner rack. The truth is, sometimes we can fix our lives and sometimes |
| 1:28.5 | we can't. But when self-help and self-care fall short, what do we need to turn to instead? |
| 1:37.2 | To fill us up, to draw us toward one another, to encourage us that we are all, you know, human again today. |
| 1:48.5 | My guest today says that we need a spiritual revolution. |
| 1:53.2 | Which is not exactly what you would imagine, |
| 1:55.4 | from the guy from the office, |
| 1:57.3 | but he has so many opinions |
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