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Randall Kennedy & Renu Mukherjee – A Debate on Affirmative Action, Live at Holy Cross

The Glenn Show

Glenn Loury

Politics, Society & Culture, News

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2023

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

0:00 Introduction by Greg Burnep

4:27 What does affirmative action mean in 2023?

11:06 Randy’s distinction between “disadvantage” and “discrimination”

18:21 Diversity’s double-talk

31:18 Did the Supreme Court say discrimination is allowed at military academies?

34:33 Glenn: Affirmative action distracts us from bigger problems

41:16 Affirmative action is an elite problem

48:48 Affirmative action as an insurance policy

57:42 The stigmatization of affirmative action beneficiaries

1:04:14 Glenn: Affirmative action has been a net positive, but it’s time to stop

1:07:14 Q&A: Does historical injustice alone justify affirmative action?

1:10:33 Q&A: Can and should colleges use loopholes to get around Students for Fair Admissions?

1:14:50 Q&A: Does the “need” for affirmative action say something race or education?

1:16:27 Q&A: What is the impact of SFFA beyond the university?

1:23:35 Q&A: What about class-based affirmative action?

Recorded September 20, 2023

Links and Readings

Randy’s book, Race, Crime, and the Law

Randy’s book, For Discrimination: Race, Affirmative Action, and the Law

Glenn’s conversation with Jay Caspian Kang



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0:48.0

I'm Greg Burnett from the Political Science Department and I want to welcome you to our

0:52.6

annual Constitution Day event here at Holy Cross.

0:58.2

One day which fell on a Sunday this year commemorates the signing of the U.S. Constitution

1:03.7

on September 17th, 1787.

1:07.8

And here's a fun fact about Constitution Day Holy Cross like all educational institutions

1:14.4

that receive federal money is actually legally required to hold an educational program related

1:22.2

to the Constitution on or around Constitution Day.

1:26.1

So feds, if you're listening, we are fulfilling our duty here today.

1:34.5

This year we are incredibly fortunate to have three distinguished guests.

1:41.7

I'll introduce them in a moment and they'll take us the rest of the way on the subject

1:46.3

of affirmative action in higher education.

1:51.2

This is a topic that I and several of my colleagues have been eager to discuss on our

1:57.6

campus and it has taken on even more significance in the wake of the recent Supreme Court ruling

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