Hi everyone and welcome back to Hot Up The Mess. I'm your host Samantha Bush and wow,

wow, wow, Bethany Frankel and Rekel's Last Rachel sat down for a part, multiple part

podcast episode. And I listen this morning so you guys don't have to be, you're welcome. Because

as you guys know, Bethany is kind of like on her reality reckoning on kick, if you will, she

is wanting to take down, you know, the network. And I've heard that, you know, Rinna's getting involved,

which isn't very surprising. And I have very mixed feelings about it all as Jared and I discuss

last week, like, of course, we feel like there should be compensation, but also there's like your

own accountability for your own actions, but also you're in this like crazy bubble. And it's just

a very, very nuanced conversation. And I just feel like I just feel like it's hard to have those

kind of conversations online because nuance doesn't exist there. So that's why, you know, I'm taking

it to the pod. I'm taking it to the mic. And I listened, I took so many notes. Because this is

the first time since the reunion. So two weeks after the affair came out, that Rekel is like

giving her side of the story. And honestly, I feel like that is being like extremely overlooked.

I think everyone expected her to maybe like really exploit this. And she hasn't, she's been in

a treatment facility since March. I think she like just got out very, very recently. And just wanted

to kind of give her own side of the story, especially like I said, because Bethany is doing this

whole reality reckoning, if you will. So I'm going to get into that. And we're going to talk a little

bit about Roni, the new episode that just came out, but really, really I want to get into the Rekel

Bethany combo. There's so much to talk about. There's so many things I'm thinking. I'm like still

processing. Because if you've been listening to this podcast since like the, since the scan of all,

you, you kind of, I feel like know where I stand on it. Like, and if you don't, let me just remind

everybody, I'll like just give my like clip notes here. Obviously, but yeah, let me get into this

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