And then the statement that she's making in this New York Times article, basically, like, you need to set your child free to determine for themselves what is right and what is wrong. Have we tried that before? Was there ever a time where God was saying, I want to tell you guys what right and wrong is and humanity said, no, like we would like to figure that out on our own. I don't know.

Maybe like the garden or...

Yeah, I remember that.

That's like, that's kind of how everything fell apart in the world.

It's like, it's at the root of all evil.

Oh, it's not funny, but if we don't laugh, what are we going to do?

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it's fun to be here. Yeah. So, yeah, we're going to dive into a topic that I think is kind of like

getting more, I think, understanding. There was like,

I feel like we went into a season where this was really confusing. And that is like, how exactly

does authority interact with children? Is that a good thing? Is it good for them to sense that

they're not in charge or does that really limit their freedom of expression?

And I think there's just been like kind of a wide range of thoughts about this.

There's sort of like a Christian version of this conversation.

There's sort of like a secular version of this conversation.

But there is a convergence happening, I would say.

I mean, I'm just finding more and more people saying very similar things.

And so I think it would be really helpful to like look at some of these clips and get y'all's take on this.

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