So, guys, Derek, more platesmoren8.com.

Today we are going to be reacting to the same episode of the Joe Rogan podcast again.

So this is Dr. Mark Gordon.

And the reason why is because more timestamps have been sent to me.

This one is the HPTA and Clomid one that, well, I had already been sent.

Actually, technically, it's just more people have sent it to me since then.

So there's a lot of demand to cover it.

And I don't know.

I haven't even listened to it.

So I've just gone up to the part where he says he was dealing with guys who took a bunch

of anabolic steroids, like high doses, like a gram of test, half a gram of natural and decanoate.

And then he would deal with fixing their HPTA you know after

coming off so again the same rules as last time we have to keep the clips to like 11 seconds at the

most or else the copyright system kind of like picks it up so bear with me well I do a very very

frequent interjections and

Perhaps sometimes not even in a logical manner sometimes I may have to pause just to have a pause in there

for the sake of not screwing up the algorithm. So that's just how it works with these high budget

podcast so bear with me here and let's get

into it so these are guys that just wrecked their system they wrecked their system and uh

someone that i had worked with um in my inception of treating them which i was totally against

okay so it sounds like he is about to say he's totally against treating them, but these are guys

that wrecked their, basically wrecked their HPTA by using super physiological doses of exogenous

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