Hi, I'm Catherine and I'm Sheila and we're taking you through private eyes.

Catherine and I are going to discuss the tools of the trade, the different elements that we go through in order to get to our conclusion,

which is to help our client resolve their case. This episode is part two of us private investigators

diving into Danny's phone records and text messages between her and Jeff. The subject matter is

sensitive as we discuss coercive control and domestic violence. If you or someone you know is a

victim of violence, please call 1-800-799-safe. On this episode, we continue into the timeline of Danny

and Jeff's relationship and use our experience as investigators to dissect the text even further.

So on the next day, June 14, Danny texts another guy, this is the first time we've heard of him and says,

good morning, beautiful. It's Danny from last night. I hope you had a good night, doll. And he says,

hey, girl, it's, I'm not going to say his name from the other night. I'm sorry, I've been really busy.

How are you? She says, it's okay, doll. I'm good. Just been working. How are you? Do you have any nights

off this week? And he said, yes, but when I'm off, I have my child. And she says, okay, I wanted to see

if you want to hang out and have a movie night. And he responds, if I can find a sitter, that would be great.

So Danny is texting this guy. The same time she's texting Jeff, she's setting updates.

There's another man we know that she's in a relationship with at the same time. So he is not,

Jeff is not the love of her life. Danny is dating other men. What do we know about the status of

their relationship at this point? Are they actually together? Or is it during one of their

breakups? Or are they not together at all? Well, the day before is when they were having

kinky sex and he was getting emotional and crying. This is the next day. Just because you're having

kinky sex doesn't mean you're together, right? So I'm curious to know if they'd established more

of like a friends with benefits type of situation. But again, it's just a question that we don't have

the answer to. Well, if you take Jeff for what he said to Kason, it was a casual thing. He wasn't

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