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Renegades: Born in the USA

Relationships with Our Fathers & Masculinity

Renegades: Born in the USA

Higher Ground

Society & Culture, Music

4.61.4K Ratings

🗓️ 24 May 2021

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

President Obama and Bruce open up about their complicated relationships with their fathers, what it means to be a man, father figures, and role models. Find the episode transcript here: http://spoti.fi/RenegadesTranscripts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

A topic that comes up between Bruce and I all the time is the message American culture

0:19.5

sends to boys about what it means to be a man.

0:23.6

It's a message that, for all the changes that have taken place in our society hasn't

0:27.8

really changed all that much since we were kids.

0:31.2

The emphasis on physical toughness and suppressing your feelings.

0:35.9

Having success defined mainly by what you own and your ability to dominate, rather than

0:41.2

on your ability to love and care for others.

0:44.2

The tendency to treat women as objects to possess rather than full-fledged partners

0:49.5

and fellow citizens.

0:51.5

The more we talked, the more obvious it became how these narrow, distorted ideas of masculinity

0:57.8

contributed to so many of the damaging trends we continue to see in the country.

1:02.5

Whether it's the growing inequality in our economy, or our complete unwillingness to compromise

1:07.5

on anything in our politics, and maybe Bruce and I realized, we're more attuned to these

1:14.5

issues because of the complicated relationships we both have had with our fathers.

1:20.5

That role models that we spent much of our lives coming to terms with.

1:35.7

You know, my dad was the kind of guy where I can remember one day, I brought him a video

1:40.8

camera.

1:41.8

I said, Dad, I want you to tell me the story of your life.

1:48.1

It lasted for five minutes.

1:54.9

And he said basically nothing.

1:57.0

He simply was an unknowable man, and I have to believe with a great pension for secrecy.

2:07.7

And I believe he got this from his father.

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