From Luminary Media, this is LGBTQ and A. I'm Jeffrey Masters, and today we're doing something

a little bit different. This is a special episode of the podcast. Rufus Wainwright is stepping into the

hosting chair and will be talking to Renee Zellwiger about her role as Judy Garland in the new biopic.

Now, Rufus himself is a massive Judy Garland fan.

In 2006, he recreated her infamous Carnegie Hall performance from 1961.

I actually bought the CD version of this when it was released.

I can still picture the black and white photo from the cover.

I've been a fan of his for a while, and when he remounted the Judy Garland show at Carnegie Hall again, 10 years later in 2016,

I just happened to be in New York City by the chance of fate.

However, I regret to say I did not go.

I was young and very poor and very foolish, and I also never imagined I'd meet him one day.

So the joke is on me.

All right, what you need to know right now is that you're about to hear Rufus Wainwright talk to

Renee Zellberger, the Oscar winner. It feels like you're eavesdropping on this really delightful

and intimate conversation about the gay icon Judy Garland. So let's get to it.

Hello. Hello?

Hi.

Hi. What are you doing?

You know, I'm just backstage with a piano.

But you must be in the middle of a tornado, you know, referencing Judy Garland?

Yes, definitely. Definitely a whirlwind. Nothing as exciting as being a recent show, I can tell

you, but the experiences have been nice. Yeah, I mean, I have to say, and I, you know, I don't

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