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Republicans Blame Kamala Harris for Afghanistan Collapse

Pod Save the World

Crooked Media

Politics, News

4.824.7K Ratings

🗓️ 11 September 2024

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

Tommy is joined by Colin Kahl, Biden’s former Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, to discuss multiple conflicts and hot spots around the world including the ongoing efforts against ISIS in Iraq, the hard lessons being learned in the war in Ukraine, Republican attempts to blame Kamala Harris for the Afghanistan withdrawal, extremist attacks in western Africa, and the futility of trying to defeat Hamas militarily in Gaza. Then, Tommy is joined by Vera Bergengruen, Senior correspondent for TIME Magazine, to discuss her cover stories on President Nayib Bukele of El Salvador and President Javier Milei of Argentina, why they’re popular at home and with Republicans in the US, the DOJ indictment that disclosed the Russian government paid huge sums to American right-wing influencers, and why Russian influence operations work best in smaller countries.

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0:00.0

Welcome back to PodSave the World, I'm Tommy Vittor and Ben has left me all alone in the

0:15.8

studio to be anxious by myself on debate day. Actually there's lots of great people in

0:21.3

the studio. You can't see them because they're not on this little camera right now, but don't worry

0:25.4

Ben's taken a week off a much-deserved break, but we have an amazing show for you today. Thanks to the magic of Zoom. It's going to be two parts. So I just

0:34.5

talked with my former colleague Colin Call. He was Biden's national security

0:39.5

advisor when Biden was the vice president. Then Collins served as a top Pentagon official

0:44.8

until last year.

0:46.2

We tick through some of the biggest security challenges

0:48.9

around the globe, from Iraq to Ukraine, Afghanistan, especially Republican efforts to pin everything bad

0:55.2

that happened in Afghanistan on Vice President Harris now. We also talked about the growing

1:00.4

security threat from Islamic extremist groups in northern Africa.

1:04.0

Then we talked about BB Netanyahu's arguments about what he needs to defeat ISIS

1:09.1

and whether he really needs control of an area called the Philadelphia Corridor, which is that border region between

1:15.8

Gaza and Egypt.

1:17.4

So fascinating conversation with a real defense policy expert who was in a lot of the meetings about Ukraine, about Iraq, about

1:25.6

Afghanistan where the decisions were now debating were made.

1:30.0

And then you will hear my conversation with a truly excellent reporter named Vera Bergen-Gruin.

1:36.1

She recently interviewed two of the most bizarre, fascinating, and in some cases very popular leaders in Latin America,

1:45.0

Javier Mille in Argentina and Naiy Bukale in El Salvador.

1:49.5

We talk about those guys, what it was like to interview them, how their policies are going, why they're

1:56.2

so popular, and then just the rise of right-wing populism generally.

2:00.7

And we also talked about Russian propaganda efforts in the US and their attempts to pay off some of the

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