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Hello, Caviar Dreamers. I'm Margaret Joseph. And I'm Lexi Buputo. And every week we are bringing

you entrepreneur real stories from leaders, disruptors, change makers, and risk takers. We may not be

serious, but we seriously mean business. Well, Kavio, James, we are here in the

studio again. I'm so excited because we're here with a dear friend of mine, an amazing businesswoman,

Jocelyn Gordon, who is an amazing company? Jocelyn. Her namesake. My namesake. Yes. So Jocelyn, please tell everybody what your

company is because I love to wear it and you're a designer, an entrepreneur, been up and now you're

definitely up because your line is doing unbelievably well, but you've had some setbacks. So please

tell everybody what your line is. So I started my company with accessories.

And there was nobody at the time when I started my company that was doing fun fur accessories.

Now you really can't say fur because it's a bad word.

But that's how I started my company with amazing, colorful fur accessories.

Yes.

And through that, I evolved into outerware, many different partners, many ups and downs.

And I had a company called J. Military by Jocelyn.

So that's where I started, Fun Fur Accessories. I sold to Bloomingdale, Sacks,

Neemence, Henry Bendell at the time. I had no idea that I could be a designer. I was working for

another accessory company. I added these Fun Fur accessories to her collection. And after three years,

I decided that I needed to do more. And I got

the courage through a friend to go out on my own. And what year was this? 2001. Okay, that's a

long time ago. That's 24 years. Now, what am I can't add? That is not. That's 22 years.

22 years ago. I started my company. I had no idea. I had gotten divorced. I didn't add. That is not. That's 22 years. 22 years ago. I started my company. I had no idea. I had gotten

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