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Factually! with Adam Conover

"Resistance" Isn't Enough for Trump 2.0 with Dr. Dana Fisher

Factually! with Adam Conover

Headgum

Comedy

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 March 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Last time we faced a Trump administration, people flooded the streets in protest. But this time feels different. Even as we watch our government being systematically dismantled, the response seems muted. Are we just exhausted? Or is something else at play? And more importantly—does protest still work, or is there a more effective way to protect our future from a newly entrenched autocracy? This week, Adam speaks with friend of the show Dr. Dana Fisher about what we actually need to be doing. Find Dana’s book at http://www.factuallypod.com/books and find Dana here:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dana-r-fisher/ BlueSky: @fisherdanar.bsky.social; Instagram: @ApocalypticOptimist; TikTok: @fisher_danar

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0:00.0

This is a headgum podcast.

0:05.4

Get the angelries special at McDonald's now.

0:07.6

Let's break it down.

0:08.6

My favorite barbecue sauce, American cheese, crispy bacon, pickles, onions, and a sesame

0:13.7

seed bun, of course.

0:15.4

And don't forget the fries and a drink.

0:17.1

Sound good?

0:18.0

Bada, ba, ba.

0:19.3

I'm participating restaurants for a limited time.

0:20.6

I don't know the truth. I don't know the truth.

0:23.4

I don't know the way.

0:26.1

I don't know what to think.

0:28.8

I don't know what to say.

0:31.7

Yeah, but that's all right.

0:34.6

That's okay.

0:37.1

I don't know anything

0:38.9

Hey there, welcome to factually.

0:41.9

I'm Adam Conover.

0:42.8

Thanks so much for joining me on the show again.

0:45.1

A bit of a dark moment for America, safe to say.

0:48.4

You know, if you care about this country,

0:49.8

if you want things to be better here,

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