All right, welcome back to the Carl Jackson Show again.

I'm joined by Colonel William Burner Dunn.

He's flown in a helicopter for the Marine Corps combat missions, 30 years retired.

We're talking about the mid-air collision that took place sadly over Reagan National Airport,

the last body just recently recovered. Before we

went to the break, we were talking about, Colonel, what could have caused this? Dei, lack of

training. Obviously, these are the arguments that are out there. Lack of training. Air traffic

control. You touched on air

traffic control. Maybe there was some confusion. Please expound on that. Well, everything that I've

seen open source is that there were supposed to be two individuals that night operating in the

tower. Now, the tower responsibilities can be broken up in different ways.

Sometimes one controller will control helicopters.

Sometimes one controller will control fixed ones.

I don't know what their process is there.

You know, and obviously it could change daily based on the traffic.

But what we do know is one person instead of two was managing all that traffic that

night because somebody was let go early.

Now, the DEI argument, I've heard two sides of it.

Okay.

Side one is they and who is they, correct?

Right?

The system is saying that FAA turned down qualified people based on their skin color.

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