Rev. Jacqui Lewis, PhD: What Would Love Have Me Do?

Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Tami Simon

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Provocative questions and life-changing answers. That’s what the Insights at the Edge podcast is all about, and this episode is no different. Here, Tami Simon speaks with celebrated minister Rev. Dr. Jacqui Lewis about her new book, Fierce Love, and our shared calling to follow the compass of our hearts as we navigate these times of uncertainty. Tune in as Tami and Dr. Lewis explore how to find joy and inspiration amid grief and despair, gaining a deeper understanding of what it means to love your neighbor, and more.

They explore recovery and resilience through community; the honesty that love demands; the “holy other” that is both of and outside of us; how a familial sense of the divine boosts faith amid uncertainty; the aquifer of joy; the sustaining grace of God’s steadfast presence; entering a transformative, not transactional, relationship with God; embodying fierce love when tragedy strikes; holding up a mirror to the best parts of ourselves; the qualities of fierce love, and the writings of Saint Paul; the shift from fear and overwhelm to wise action; loving your neighbor and the essence of Christianity; the extraordinary kindness and generosity often offered by complete strangers; nonpossessive delight; hand-to-hand reckoning and accompanying; interrogating our self-limiting identities; discovering “the sweetness in the sorrow”; making amends; a special blessing to support us in responding with love; and more.

Note: This episode originally aired on Sounds True One, where these special episodes of Insights at the Edge are available to watch live on video and with exclusive access to Q&As with our guests. Learn more at join.soundstrue.com.

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0:00.0	Hello, friends. My name's Tammy Simon and I'm the founder of Sounds True, and I want to welcome you to the Sounds True podcast, Insights at the Edge. I also want to take a moment to introduce you to Sounds True's new membership community and digital platform. It's called Sounds True One.
0:20.6	Sounds True One features original, premium, transformational
0:24.7	docu series, community events, classes to start your day and relax in the evening, special
0:32.6	weekly live shows, including a video version of Insights at the Edge with an after-show community
0:40.8	question-and-answer session with featured guests. I hope you'll come join us, explore,
0:47.5	come have fun with us, and connect with others. You can learn more at join.soundstrue.com.
0:54.5	I also want to take a moment and introduce you to the Sounds True Foundation, our nonprofit, that creates equitable access to transformational tools and teachings.
1:07.3	You can learn more at SoundsTrueFoundation.org.
1:11.1	And in advance, thank you for your support.
1:15.8	In this episode of Insights at the Edge, my guest is the Reverend Dr. Jackie Lewis,
1:22.9	and I'm so excited for this conversation.
1:25.7	Truth be told, my heart is full and overflowing.
1:32.7	Reverend Dr. Jackie Lewis is someone who lives with this question as her personal compass.
1:41.0	What would love have me do? She's a public theologian and the first black senior
1:48.5	minister at the progressive multicultural middle church in Manhattan. She's a graduate of
1:56.4	Princeton Theological Seminary and has a doctorate in psychology and religion from Drew University,
2:04.0	and she's the author of a gorgeous book, a book that goes straight in through storytelling,
2:12.5	inspiration, and a communication of a love that can't be stopped.
2:18.9	It's called fierce love, a bold path to ferocious courage and rule-breaking kindness
2:25.5	that can heal the world.
2:28.2	Jackie, welcome.
2:30.4	What's up, Tammy?
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