Oh, hello. This is Everything Happens with Kate Baller.

So talking about grief, in grief you anticipate the despair, the sleepless nights, the lack of appetite, the feeling of being deeply offended by birds singing outside.

Like do they not know my world has ended?

Like let's have a little respect. But I think that we're often surprised by the other side of the emotional spectrum,

those moments of joy that pop up sometimes entirely unexpectedly, that we can be in the thick

of a terrible moment and then, you know, pop. There it is. A moment of delight. And then we find ourselves laughing or a smile just creeps onto our face.

Sudden lightness, blevity, hilarity, absurdity. And frankly, those are the moments that help

sustain us in the midst of all the grief.

Moments that don't erase the pain, but make it a bit more bearable.

The strange truth that joy and pain can and really do coexist.

Today's guest practices

finding these pockets of happiness

in the midst of grieving his beloved wife. And before I introduce him to you,

we'll take a quick break to tell you about some of the sponsors who make our show possible.

Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with the absolutely extraordinary Richard E Grant and my brain is exploding because really honestly he is my favorite.

He is my favorite actor. He came to fame with the classic Withnall and I and he has gone on to star in gorgeous and funny and he can play sort of

affronted like no one I've ever seen my very favorite movie I've seen recently is Can You Ever For

Me For Which He was nominated for an Oscar. And he's also a gorgeous author. He

wrote a beautiful book about grief and love and marriage and I cannot wait to talk to him today.

Richard, what a gift to me.

Thank you.

Thank you very much. I love that the story of your career is so intertwined with the story of your marriage

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