We see the magic, the magic in the middle is what we call psychological safety.

And so if we can create an environment where everybody feels physically and emotionally safe,

that's inclusive and accessible, where they can have fun and they can take risks,

that environment will allow them to heal themselves.

And for them to see others in the community who are healing as well,

they now see that there are other ways and that this is not just about them alone in their home.

That there's a whole world out there.

And so hope and optimism increase significantly.

Hello and welcome to pursuing health.

I'm Dr. Julie Fouche, family physician and former CrossFit Games athlete.

Here I bring you information and inspiration to help bridge the gap between fitness and medicine

and support your journey toward your health yourself.

Before we dive into the episode,

I do want to make it clear that this podcast is for general information only and does not provide medical advice.

I recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.

Welcome to pursuing health.

Today I am very excited to be joined by Jackie Hillios,

who is the deputy executive director of the Phoenix,

which is an addiction recovery program that uses physical activity and community

friendships to support members on their sobriety journey.

And in her role, she focuses on oversight and leadership and program design implementation evaluation and expansion.

Jackie is a former clinician who worked with youth and family struggling with mental illness and substance use disorders.

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